Bloody great news!!!!  

ey jeremy ,are u playing barcelona after releasing your solo album? it'd b great,we love 
u,take care

<----excited.

Rad thanks for the update good luck on the new record.

Thank you :)

THat is some fucking shit kicking bad ass news.

what, my solo rendition of the vagina monologues isn't good enough for you anymore?

bastards.

That DVD news is Wicked, I NEVER play my SDRE VHS for fear of my vcr eating it and had 
it burned to dvd but it rarely plays properly...so a full fledged legit honest to 
goodness play all you want release is welcome news...a rerelease of the SDRE Live video 
would be welcome too...or maybe I should live on the edge...nah it took me too many 
years to track down...glad to hear more solo stuff is en route, amke sure you're not 
afraid to rock us out with it as well...you can kick it alone...

nice. jeremy on tour!, awesome. just to be able to hear his old ROTFQ 
songs. ....aaaaaaah. oops, let me wipe that excitement induced drool away from my chin.

when are you playing st. louis that will rock

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sorry bout that....what i meant to say was great....i wonder if any of the united states 
of leland material will be available on the new album...

well, jeremy, that WAS great news.

i've run into a new roomate who happened to save some older mags from back in the days of 
SDRE and an interview from 04. These were very intresting reads, and it feels like you 
haven't had the greatest response from the critics because of their taste of cliche "emo" 
and "rock." I don't have the right words for encouragement, but all i know is there is a 
divine plan for TFT and your solo projects. I know people who's lives has changed not 
directly but with influence of yours. Your friends in the band do not stick with you for 
no reason. The trials and tribulations the band has endured mirror the lives of people 
whether they admit it or not. 

simplicity is king these days. simple living, sincere heartfelt lyrics, and keeping the 
music scene simple instead of turning the fire theft into a corporation. this is what 
people keep coming back to you guys for.

this is a wierd first post.

Hi Pinar, Garret, 

not sure if you remember me...the short english girl from the bowery ballroom gig, like 
forever ago? how are you guys??

i've finally got myself an internet connection again and returned to the wonderful world 
of the internet so that i can keep an eye on what's going on here and suddenly there is 
news. well timed eh! 

Jeremy - can't wait to hear the new stuff. any chance you fancy touring to a small isle 
across the ocean? we'd sure love to have you here, it's been too long :o)

Herb xx

holy shite!!! HERB!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what the bloody hell's been up with YOU in the past couple years?! :) 

garrett recently embarked on a trip from okinawa back to the states (he's a marine now stationed in japan) and i 
hanged out with him fri night. he'll probably see this in a few days and reply. anyway, k.i.t. and hope all's well!

xoxo,
~p

yo yo yo!, 

hmm, i've been having a crappy summer and so have returned to the internet for refuge. 
however things are looking up. starting my masters on monday whilst working on a bakery 
stall in markets all over london. 

SO glad to find you still in the old haunt. hows life in med school going? you're nearly 
done soon right? how random that Garret's a marine. good for him...does he get a cute 
uniform? 

probably should have done this whole getting in touch thing via e-mail rather than 
bothering the whole board! opps. 

Herb

:) xx

hey herbmeister--long time no anything.  nice to see another friendly face.

herbness,

what's so "crappy" about your summer? are you still with neon? regardless, that masters work sounds great! 
nothing puts me in a good mood better than hard work, or so i've discovered after a questionable summer on 
my end as well. what're you getting your masters in? is it music-related? congrats, and good luck with all that!
 
as for me, i'm in my final 8 months of med school. what a trip. i've basically spent the majority of it here on the 
boards, and here i am. just can't get away, can i? haha. i'm currently applying for residency in psychiatry. i want 
to go into psychosomatic medicine. but that's years and years away even from now.

as for garrett, make no mistake: there's nothing "cute" about garebear. EVER. ;) also, forget the fact that we're 
not using email. i mean, heck, who posts here anymore anyway? well, i take that back. jeremy enigk's evil twin 
did post here a little bit back, to our shock and dismay. ;) but aside from that, these here parts be perty dead in 
the past year or so since the theft stopped tourin'. as he said in this thread, jer's supposed to tour early next 
year. if he does-- and i know it ain't cheap nor can you just leave school in the middle of whenever but-- i'd 
love to have you over to see his shows again! a music geek reunion of sorts!

anywho, i must dash to run errands then study me arse off. lots o' horrid horrid heinous horrid exams coming 
up for me in the next month... and then i'm going to do an away rotation in portland, oregon of all places. 
freakin' hippie colony. who knew? write back soon!

xoxo,
pinar

Well my dear, summer was crappy for a whole host of reasons. Neon broke up with me a 
week after graduation. the only reason he gave was it didn't seem right anymore. since i 
was more in love with him than ever and thought everything was amazing and that i was 
moving to london to be closer to him, this came as immensely devastating. and still is.

then, i had to move down to london to live alone for a month and a half before my 
housemate (Cath, the girl who was in NY with me...who says "hi") moved in (that being a 
time i thought i was going to get to spend entirly with Neon). needless to say i didn't 
want to move down, but my parents said it would be better to get situated, so i had to. 

so i move down. am pretty depressed, then discover that i didn't get the funding i 
applied for to cover the cost of the masters. talk about kick you when you're down. 

so yeah, many crappy things, meaning not a very happy Herbie. however a job for Flour 
Power City Bakery (who's slogan is "Bread not bombs"!!) has helped things. despite early 
mornings and no doubt what will become freezing markets. 

my masters is in Architectural History. (which is a fancy name for theory that might be 
linked to buildings!) a far cry from the english degree, but hopefully it will all tie 
in at PhD level. 

psychosomatic medicine sounds amazing, well worth the wait and hard work. does this mean 
you'll be able to cure me psychically *lol* why oregon, surely that's a bit far away? 

don't worry, if Jeremy tours over your way i'll be out there like a shot. wouldn't it be 
just amazing to have a random reunion. i'm not missing him doing a solo tour. sod the 
savings for the PhD, Mr Enigk is far more important. 

well i think that this is a long enough post for now, even if no-one is using the board 
these days. plus i'm working again tomorrow at some random market in a wierd suburb of 
london so have to get up really early. well okay half six, which isn't that early, but 
after a lazy summer it sure feels like it is. 

muchos love and hugs, 

H xxxxx

Herb, I read that and am sorry.  Life does like to stomp you every once in awhile.

herbie,

ah, yes. it's always about a guy, isn't it? i know that song all too well, honey. and your blues sounds just awful. 
people can be so fickle it's disturbing. you two were together for years! but i suppose better now than, say, after 
getting married or having kids, right? i hope you feel better. i have a bootleg of an enigk show where jer was 
blabbing on and on about why his music is so sad. he said that, to him, when you feel so low there's only one 
way to go and that's up. so hang in there, sweetie.

"psychosomatic medicine sounds amazing, well worth the wait and hard work. does this mean 
you'll be able to cure me psychically *lol* why oregon, surely that's a bit far away?"

haha. yes, i'll use my mind waves and healing crystals to telepathically call upon the charisma of jesus to cure 
leprosy and bad music taste everywhere. :) psychosomatic medicine is a sub-specialty of psychiatry that deals 
with taking care of both medically and psychiatrically ill patients, as well as studying the interaction between 
the mind and body with regards to their illness. fascinating stuff. i got really into this after i started yoga years 
and years ago in college. i'm going out to portland, oregon to work in a veterans affairs hospice. i'll be 
supervised by the psychiatrist who studies physician-assisted suicide. see, oregon is the only state where it's 
legal for doctors to prescribe overdoses of barbiturates to end the suffering of terminally ill patients (though 
the doctor may not actually administer the drugs). should be a wonderful learning, if not profoundly life-
altering, experience.

in the meantime, i must study. k.i.t.

xoxo,
pap master p

I can understand easing someone's pain to an extent, but assisted suicide for terminally
ill patients makes no sense.  yeah, they're going to die, but so is everyone else in this
world.  so either it should be ok for everyone to have assisted suicide or none at all.

and if you want some crazy, "make sense" justification, it's that people will commit
suicide anyway and it would be better for it to be that way then for them to use cops as a
vehicle.  having to shoot someone in the line of duty is a traumatic experience,
especially if you find out that you only fired on someone who wanted out of this
world--not someone actually looking to kill you or having harmed anyone else.

also, herb, I emailed you, I think...I took the punctuation out of the email addy on your
profile and I figured that would be it.

garrett, i have absolutely no idea what you are getting at. why help dying people die? why the hell should 
doctors help ease any suffering at all? let's just stop giving antibiotics to people with meningitis. let's just stop 
doing surgery on people with appendicits. where do you draw the line? in my mind, if my patient were to want 
medical treatment of any sort to ease their personal suffering, and they're not cognitively impaired in any way, 
i'd give them the treatment. plain and simple. that's my job.

most terminally ill patients who no longer wish to live commit suicide passively by refusal of food and/or drink. 
some of my patients on other rotations were doing just that to themselves. now i'm not here to preach to you 
about what consists of moral "right" versus "wrong." but the fact is that starving or drying yourself to death is 
still suicide. on top of it all, it takes days to weeks on end, which is clearly not the most humane way to die in a 
situation where one can ease such suffering if the patient does not want to endure it. as it stands, a lot of 
physicians outside of oregon give such patients lethal doses of opiates to kill pain as well as stop the patient's 
breathing (and both the patients and family members know that this is what will eventually happen). so why the 
hell not offer other drugs to get the same job done?

I wasn't arguing right and wrong, I was arguing logic.  

We are all terminally ill.  Some people want to die so badly they go, get a gun, and point
it at an officer so that the officer will shoot and kill him/her.  

So in a world were 100% of the people are going to die within a set period of time, why
choose an arbitrary length to kill them at, regardless of their will.  Either suicide
should be legal or illegal, not both.

as i implied in my reply above, there are two different scenarios with regards to suicide. there are people who'd 
like to commit suicide for mental health reasons that have nothing to do with logic. for these people there IS 
help, and aiding in their deaths would go against the "do no harm" spirit of the hippocratic oath. what i referred 
to above was the second case: terminally ill patients who are in constant, physical pain, not to mention family 
members who hate seeing them that way, and for whom there is nothing medicine can do to end their suffering 
short of killing them.